How much water are you using with all these HP passes? Seems like a lot of HP passes.
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Petit or Oasis distributor
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You could definitely do less passes but I don’t want the wash so quick that a customer does not feel like they are getting their moneys worth. I also like to start my chemicals front to back.
That is the top wash and I would guess probably about 14 gallons a HP pass. Passes are only about 10-15 seconds long depending on the vehicle.
If you really want to know I can turn my float off tomorrow to get an accurate number.
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Just curious, how would you attribute this to the equipment? Wouldn't this be more likely chemical and dwell related. Never really heard of anyone saying a Petit doesn't do a good job with its high pressure rinsing. Actually usually the opposite I hear.
There is so much to unpack here but I will just take the low hanging fruit.
Who is trying to wash cars or get their car washed when its below 10 degrees and blowing wind. And as owners are those few washes worth the potential damage to any piece of equipment (Oasis, Petit, Airlift, ect). Smart business people balance liability with potential profit. Fun fact the against the objections of Parker, NASA launched the shuttle Challenger in weather colder then specified by the oring manufacturer and to dire consequences. Car washes use water and water freezes ALL freeze protection is designed to buy you time to make the right decision not keep running and testing your luck. So the rabbits foot sounds like it is properly in your pocket. Your logic is inherently flawed.
Why does every self serve in the country have a Weepmizer....?
Secondly for those in the back if any piece of equipment fails including doors and car wash equipment i recomend you shutting of the water to that bay and blowing all lines clear to ensure nothing freezes until you can make necessary repairs and re open the wash. There is no need to constantly run a torpedo heater so that you can weep water that will freeze into a bay not in use.
I guess I just have more faith and think higher of the average car wash owner than you.
Common sense isn't so common after all. But bias is blinding.
Dan kamsickas
GinSan Technician
Happens all the time here in West Michigan. Heck, I've driven by self serves being used in single digits and snow. When you don't see the sun for a month(or more) and it snows 5-6 days a week at a time people will go use a wash just to get the top layer of crud off the vehicle.
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Not that important, appreciate it though, was just curious more than anything.
Ok I will bite how are you keeping the self serve bays from freezing?
Dan kamsickas
GinSan Technician
Some do have doors but mostly it's floor heat, deicer, full blast weep with warm to hot water.
The cost of the water is far cheaper than replacing damaged booms, hoses, guns, etc.
I thought this whole thread was indicating those weren't sufficient freeze protection and relying on luck (Blanco hating on his favorite OEM). Unless I am mistaken opinions on this thread are as follows, bay heat isn't enough without doors, weep isn't enough without rail heat I am going to have to check with my middle school science teacher about freezing and the impact the starting temperature of the water plays in how long it takes to freeze.
Pretty sure there are plenty of examples of pictures of bays where the weep made an ice mountain from running continuously, but I guess with the reported logic at least you got to make $300 from the 6 cars you washed during your Alberta Clipper.
Depending on the area water is not always cheaper but what is cheaper is limiting your liability. Using the same logic we would be advising owners to keep their wash open even if the water supply to the building had significant leak or keep running a machine with a bad bearing no matter what else it causes to fail.
Sometimes the smartest decision isn't the easiest or the most popular.
I did not say the HP rinse did not work , I said the Petit did not clean as well as the old D&S. You would expect it to at $20.00 for the top wash. The chemicals are different- Petit uses McClean and D&S used Warsaw. The Petit can move very fast around a car and the one here is very fast, may be too fast and that may be the issue as it does not allow for any real dwell time for chemicals to really work correctly .
You are my favorite groupie. Every post you make is covered in your bias and targeted at me. You have yet to contribute one helpful thing on this forum.
Weep in a SS bay is different then an auto. It’s not the wands that freeze in an auto but the rails the machines ride on. You should consult your middle school teacher because your not smart enough to understand that.
You obviously have no real world experience in SS and just run your mouth because we run weep constantly when it gets below 20. We don’t just shut down for 5 months out the year.
Grow up buddy and stop acting like a teenage girl throwing tantrums because you read something you didn’t agree with. Really cute quotes at the end of your posts though.
Dan kamsickas
GinSan Technician
Exactly. I would never recommend running an auto without rail heat and/or doors in my climate. Preferably both. When your local annual snowfall is measured in feet, washes will be lined up on days there is no snowfall. Usually regardless of the temperature. There are too many places on an auto where weep will fail to prevent weeping. Even with a couple of local municipalities nearly doubling the cost of water in the last year or two running heated water full blast is still cheaper that replacing booms and hoses by a long shot. It's not even close.
Waxman
Super Moderator
here in New England we get some pretty extreme winter weather at times. If all the cars are white with road salt and then you get clear dry day, cars will be lined up at the car wash. The temperature and the wind don't really matter for the automatic but it does matter a little bit for the self-service bays. I went with the razor cold weather package which includes rail heat and weep. I have vinyl roll up doors and only a few times have I ever seen my weep come on because my floor heat and the warm water from cars being Washed keeps it nice and warm in there. In the self service bays I run methanol in my foamy brush and three color foam and I keep the weep miser on. I also have doors I can pull down when it gets really cold. I guess the bottom line is that customers still expect you to be open and fully functioning no matter what the weather is doing. That's the way this business has always been in my experience.
I think in order to compare equipment the chemicals would need to be the constant.
Assumptions make ....
And as others not me have said over and over, you are the favorite hater lol