Got that question from one of my techs recently. Sent him to a PSQ 4000 that stopped putting out soap. The delivery pump and motor had gone belly up. Even from Wash World replacement was around $800 with freight. The original motor is 1.5 hp. So I gave him a .5 hp motor and small Procon to replace it for less than half. I can only imagine what PDQ would want for it, as they won't sell or talk to me. Well the little guy works great. I would bet that even a Flojet would do. So that's when the tech asks why PDQ put the bigger one on to start with. Good question. If you have one of these machines, remember this when yours croaks.
Well, why did they put that part on in the first place?
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If you are talking about the solution pump, I think the reason PDQ uses a bigger motor and pump, is for units that have triple foam. There needs to be more pressure and volume to draw chemical through three injectors. Rather than running the motor/pro con, I would replace with a starite, as this is a much better alternative.
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yes, you'll change out many, many procons before you would change out the starite.
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4 starites...haven't touched them in years. Before them, many procons and danfoss/injector changes after the procons grenade and clogged up the whole system. I might mess with an injector or danfoss every 6 months now.
ken-pro
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Washworld (I assume PDQ as well) use the Sta-Rite due to the volume requirement of 3 triple foam injectors. I have replaced several Procon pumps on customer's older systems, but have never touched a Sta-rite. Washworld offers a retrofit to use the Sta-rite instead of the Procon for their system.
As well, the added bonus of not having the Procon pump grenade and plug everything is great.
As well, the added bonus of not having the Procon pump grenade and plug everything is great.
Sorry Mac, I have doubts about that 1/2 horse motor holding up for very long. I don't think the single phased 1.5 hp held up that well either (may be why they went to using 3 phased motors).
The Sta-Rite pump has been used in new Lasers for quite a while now (2002?). I have replaced several that after about 5 years use (depending on usage and water quality), their pressure started dropping below 150 psi. This is still better than replacing a Procon pump once a year with chance of it contaminating all the low pressure circuits.
The Sta-Rite pump has been used in new Lasers for quite a while now (2002?). I have replaced several that after about 5 years use (depending on usage and water quality), their pressure started dropping below 150 psi. This is still better than replacing a Procon pump once a year with chance of it contaminating all the low pressure circuits.
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Not sure...It automatically fills with a hydrominder
Thanks for all the info. This particular location is very low volumn, and the owner is cheap beyond words. In this case I went with the small Procon, but will go with the Starite for regular customers. Thanks to all.
Rick Lancelle
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The Sta-rite pump has been standard with High Velocity equipment for some time now,this pump supplied by Sta-rite is built specifically for Washworld to meet our standards in reliability and performance. It has proven to be a great advancement from that of Procon assembly, Washworld does and will offer upgrades to all High Velocity customers and others.
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Everything is an "upgrade" or "retrofit" in our experience in the carwash business...stainless bridge/trolley from rotting painted steel (which I'm trying to figure out how to afford with our dist putting another in right now within stone's throw...Merry Christmas to you too), VT from POS floor steel nitemare, starite from POS procon, XEs from POS HVXs, and all with 90 days of service warranty to boot from new.
Funny, on a $20K automobile the dealer/manufacturer covers parts/labor long after the first scratch and call similarly botched engineering woes a 'recall' and happily eat it.
Would anyone be interested in an extended warranty for their carwash equipment? I'd gladly paid good money for one up front knowing what I know now.
Sorry to hijack...
Funny, on a $20K automobile the dealer/manufacturer covers parts/labor long after the first scratch and call similarly botched engineering woes a 'recall' and happily eat it.
Would anyone be interested in an extended warranty for their carwash equipment? I'd gladly paid good money for one up front knowing what I know now.
Sorry to hijack...
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raisethe price, you bring up a good point. Whenever I sell a simple piece of equipment or a complete package, a common question is what is the warranty. I reply, what do you want. As a distributor, I can put ant warranty on it I like. I just charge more for the extended ones. Almost never get any takers though. As for the manufacturers offering them, I don't think we'll live long enough to see it.
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