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Triple foam as a drying aid

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soonermajic

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I called KR, & they said their 3x foam polish is NOT a drying aid...but their low ph Triple foam is.

I want 3x foam that helps with the drying process, & at the same time has some color to it.

Any advice...?
 
MGSMN & WashNshine, how much are those for 5 & 15 gallons, & what are the dilution rates? Both look like good ideas. I can't get a response back from eithermmm
 
You can get a case of four Glo 'n Go - one gallon ultra concentrate containers for around $275. The final dilution will be around 600 - 800:1. I have heard you can cut it thinner, but I have not done that.

It is similar in dilution ratio to the Turtle Wax ultra concentrates. I never tried them, but did a little research a while back.
 
I haven't used either product, but most likely the polish is going to get better beading and help with drying better than a low ph product.
 
Greg Pack said:
I haven't used either product, but most likely the polish is going to get better beading and help with drying better than a low ph product.
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Greg, I thought exactly the same. Called KR's soap guy, & he says opposite. Told me I need their low ph 3x foam detergent. So confusing...
 
Sooner have you called JBS? It might be possible that you can get a superior product and lower (or at least the same) cost per car with their compass line.
 
The tunnel way of doing things has been to use low ph. My understanding is you put low ph on a car to get rid of excess alkalinity, which assists the CCP in "sticking" to the car. Alkaline presoaks leave a film. You feel this slipperiness when you stick your hand in hi ph presoak. When you try to rinse it off the slipperiness stays there. The low ph will kill this. But the foundation is you have to start with making sure that the CCP product is doing its' job. A lot of autos try to apply CCP through high pressure which dilutes it tremendously. You should use enough CCP that a car can dry without it.
 
Greg Pack said:
Alkaline presoaks leave a film. You feel this slipperiness when you stick your hand in hi ph presoak. When you try to rinse it off the slipperiness stays there. The low ph will kill this.
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As I understand it, what you are feeling isn't a film, it is the alkalinity converting some oils/fats to soap. It's the same process as making lye soap.
 
JustaGuy is right... High pH 'saponifies' the lipid bilayer of skin cells - turning them into.... Soap! So your skin is turning into a surfactant by the alkalization of the skin (a good thing to keep in mind when you run out of soap!). Watch "fight club" for details. Its totally different when it comes to paint surfaces, as the paint (hopefully) stays there and doesn't regenerate. The clear coat protectant is an oil/water emulsion in which the oils bond to the surface of the paint and the surfactant in it makes a stronger hydrogen bond polarization of the water ions which makes the water drops ball up. Depending on the type of surfactant used for that (i.e. a cationic surfactant) a lower pH will assist in the effectiveness of the surfactant and the oil surface - making the break more accelerated. The type of polymer and/or hydrocarbon chain length changes the water droplet shape and adhesion making the contact angle of the water droplet to the paint larger which makes the droplet easier to be blown off or gravity dripped.
 
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