OK I know this has been discussed before but I want to get a new take on it. And yes, I sell soap. I also will admit that I do not know everything. So what chemical process do you think works best? Talking about a common friction conveyor wash. I know cleaning effectiveness and rinse ability are a big part, but have any of you found something that makes a car pop?
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The chemistry of washing
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Earl Weiss
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I am skeptical on many things. However, my family gets the A+ which includes Rain X regularly and the 5-7 & 10 year old cars without any other treatments seem to "pop."
soonermajic
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So many guys in the Midwest say use high Ph & do NOT use a low ph in conjunction with High ph (cause they neutralize each other). But, who knows for real...?
Earl Weiss
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I have gone to low PH cleaners. Did this when I heard DA works better with low PH cleaners. Seems to get the job done on both counts.
MEP001
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If I'm not mistaken, you have to go a mildly alkaline before you hit it with a very low pH (or vice versa) or it will just neutralize.
washnshine
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Not sure why you would not want to neutralize a high pH detergent - you have to neutralize so that you can effectively dry the car.
Getting back to the original question - what makes a car pop -Simomiz lava process and their hot wax and shine. I am not a salesman of any sort and would probably go out on a limb and say that probably any of the quality soap makers that have a similar multi step lava process with high and lo pH cleaners and next generation sealants will give similar results. But IMHO, that is the best way to get a noticeable shine/hand waxed look in a tunnel application. Pretty impressive what chemistry is available to us these days.
The one thing I've noticed is that the chemistry has improved in the last 10 years or so. But it's almost like the double edged sword. There are a lot of choices from all the manufacturers. The real issue that I see with most of the soap salesmen is that they are somewhat clueless on exactly how to set up a wash and then do the calibration and titration to know exactly what the strength and costs are.
robert roman
Bob Roman
Foam bubbles, lava, lights, signage have no direct bearing in cleaning a car. It’s for all show.
Chemistry hasn’t changed at all. What is different is product marketing.
Hot wax has been rebooted with “shine.” Rain-X has been cloned - ICE, Body Shield, etc. Then add in tire shiner, buff and dry unit, and 4-step paint sealant.
All of this was done to extend life cycle (company, product) and increase average sales.
I’m interested in knowing what’s next.
Chemistry hasn’t changed at all. What is different is product marketing.
Hot wax has been rebooted with “shine.” Rain-X has been cloned - ICE, Body Shield, etc. Then add in tire shiner, buff and dry unit, and 4-step paint sealant.
All of this was done to extend life cycle (company, product) and increase average sales.
I’m interested in knowing what’s next.