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Pre-Soak a waste of time on friction?

soonermajic

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Do you guys think 1 & 2 step P-S process is a waste of time on a friction IBA?
I do. As a matter of fact, on my SoftGloss, we don't do any Pre-Soak, & it doesn't effect the outcome at all.

What's yalls thoughts...?
 

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Sooner I think you answered your own question - if no difference in results then less product cost and more importantly quicker wash cycle. Win-win if it works for you.
 

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Look at it this way, mainly because those of you who see no difference. NO automatic will get every surface clean. I operate one of the better ones but there are places like under the little extension at the rear of many SUVs or by side view mirrors that the brushes simply don’t touch. It all depends on the quality you want to sell.
 

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Yeh Mac, & those areas don't get cleaned by adding Pre-Soak either. You have to have an attendant to get those 2 areas clean.
 

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I would use an alkaline. Alkaline Presoak is going to help with bugs and those marginal areas where the brushes "glance" the surface but don't fully contact. I think you will get a better overall car for .25 product cost. Instead of a low ph presoak you could use a low ph shampoo to get rid of alkalinity, or inject low ph into your rinse water.
 

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I would use an alkaline. Alkaline Presoak is going to help with bugs and those marginal areas where the brushes "glance" the surface but don't fully contact. I think you will get a better overall car for .25 product cost. Instead of a low ph presoak you could use a low ph shampoo to get rid of alkalinity, or inject low ph into your rinse water.
So are you suggesting an alkaline PS, & then low ph Shampoo/lubricant?
 

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I agree with Greg. High pH presoak and low pH brush lubricant/soap for the best results. The low pH is essential for getting a dryer car. This is what most tunnels do as well. If your presoak isn't making a difference, try a better presoak.

David
 

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Don’t own a SoftGloss but seen plenty of them. Can you put hi pH on with the foam bath and then feed the brushes with the neutral/lubricating soap?

That’s basically what us tunnel guys do - put the hi pH on the car with the first arch and then feed wraps and mitters with a foamy detergent. Either neutral or lower pH.
 

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On my SoftGloss i am
JBS Fonic for lubricating
JBS Glowfoam for 3x foam
Quest Shine On for ColorWave (lava wax)
Kidd Wash Rain Coat ccp

Cars come out clean dry shiny & laint is slick as a hand wax job
 

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[QUOTE="soonermajic, post: 142860,

Cars come out clean dry shiny & laint is slick as a hand wax job

sounds like you’re done
 
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