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fisherman31

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Can you guys help me fill in the blanks, I mean box? This place was held together by rubber bands and paperclips when my boss bought it. We couldn't make heads or tells out of anything so we took it all apart. Now we're like, hmmmm.... Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Nope, it was pieced together so bad stuff was shorting out. The power meter box actually shot fire from it at one point. That's when the boss decided to upgrade a bunch of the stuff. There was no way to trace most of the wires. Not with all the tape and wing nuts and splices. We'll get it. No problem.
 
How’s this?

It’s a junction box for a single self service bay.

The 120v to 24v transformer powers the solenoids, coin acceptor, timer, and motor starter coil.

The 240v, three phase motor starter powers the pump motor when high pressure systems are selected.

The Terminal strip is for connecting 24v coin box wiring to the equipment room components.
 
Just trying not to put back stuff we don't need. The new system is a kleen-rite corp low pressure system. Most of the old solenoids are no longer needed. What about the 3 way rinse vale? and what does the pulse counter do? Sorry, just trying to learn.
 
cantbreak80 said:
How’s this?

It’s a junction box for a single self service bay.

The 120v to 24v transformer powers the solenoids, coin acceptor, timer, and motor starter coil.

The 240v, three phase motor starter powers the pump motor when high pressure systems are selected.

The Terminal strip is for connecting 24v coin box wiring to the equipment room components.
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Yep! That's what we have so far! lol
 
How many bays?, what functions will you have to the bays? Pictures of the meter boxes in the bays, The more information you give, the easier it may be for others to help if they know exactly what you asking for.
 
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Doesn't matter. I wanted to see a box similar to the one I posted and have it explained a little. The car wash is still down. Looks nice though. lol The guy hooking up the pumps has them running but he didn't put the high pressure regulators in, or the check valves, or the dampeners. I told the boss from the start that I knew nothing about this stuff, so I'm pretty much just the gopher till it gets up and running. Best part? I'll be outside the booth when they fire them puppies up!
 
OK... To find the information I needed, I looked up the old parts data sheets. Some of these pumps had unloaders and some had regulators. I know the difference now and how and where to install them. There was no dampener, how important is that? What about check valves? And would you recommend routing the bypass right back to the water intake of the pump, or into the reservoir tank or somewhere in between. CAT 310 pumps, I think. 6 of them. The regulators are Paraplate BR52's. Pictures, tomorrow.
 
The regulator bypass needs to go to the same inlet port as the incoming water. You can't return it to the tank or you'll contaminate it with the soap and wax. The regulator needs to be on the same side as the plumbing out to the bay, otherwise the water in the pump will change direction every time the trigger is pulled and released which causes a brief cavitation and will destroy the brass.

The pulse dampener isn't necessary IMO. It will make the lines less noisy if they're solid or braided steel, but it serves no real function. I use nylon thermoplastic hose so the pulse dampener is not needed.
 
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