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Waxman
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Penthouse, Modern Drummer and Griot's Garage, but that's more of a catalog. Just kidding.
You mean carwash trade mags? Pc&D, Autolaundry News. Both are good.
You mean carwash trade mags? Pc&D, Autolaundry News. Both are good.
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You aren't actually paying for them are you? If you are, just stop paying. I get all four of them, but I'm not charged.
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You're right, I did need to do that.
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Patrick H. Crowe
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To me any discussion of the various mag's needs to contrast the variations. I have written a good bit for this industry so my insight may be different than most but here goes. My work has not only been in three of the mag's mentioned but my Car Wash Appraisal Handbook is well known to the industry
Some mags publish on a regular schedule. For example PC & D is monthly. Others seem to come out on an erratic basis; sometimes six months between issues, sometimes less, no regular publication date is very unusual in the publishing industry.
Some largely steer clear of partisan politics, one seems to relish having the last word on such topics. Readers can choose whether such comments belong in car wash journals.
Some have editorial boards and belong to relatively large publishing companies. This limits what the mag is allowed to do, what liberties can be taken. One is completely in the hands of one person who reports to no company, no board of directors and so on. This has advantages and disadvantages.
Some limit the length of the articles they can accept. ALN has carried some of my longer pieces in two subsequent issues because the piece was too long for a single issue. One mag allows longer pieces but often they are writne by the owner/editor/publisher instead of by a person who has owned multiple washes for decades. The credentials of the authors usually merit serious consideration.
Two of the mags for which I have written not only feel free to make stylistic changes in my work but one in particular has me saying things I never said. Throughout the publishinging industry this is absolutely not ever done. It is fundamentally unethical. Needless to say I no longer write for either of these mags, nor will I ever again. When a reader can no longer be sure if what the mag shows as an authr's work was really the author's work then the credibility of the mag is down the drain.
There's much more but time and space limnit me.
Patrick H. Crowe
Some mags publish on a regular schedule. For example PC & D is monthly. Others seem to come out on an erratic basis; sometimes six months between issues, sometimes less, no regular publication date is very unusual in the publishing industry.
Some largely steer clear of partisan politics, one seems to relish having the last word on such topics. Readers can choose whether such comments belong in car wash journals.
Some have editorial boards and belong to relatively large publishing companies. This limits what the mag is allowed to do, what liberties can be taken. One is completely in the hands of one person who reports to no company, no board of directors and so on. This has advantages and disadvantages.
Some limit the length of the articles they can accept. ALN has carried some of my longer pieces in two subsequent issues because the piece was too long for a single issue. One mag allows longer pieces but often they are writne by the owner/editor/publisher instead of by a person who has owned multiple washes for decades. The credentials of the authors usually merit serious consideration.
Two of the mags for which I have written not only feel free to make stylistic changes in my work but one in particular has me saying things I never said. Throughout the publishinging industry this is absolutely not ever done. It is fundamentally unethical. Needless to say I no longer write for either of these mags, nor will I ever again. When a reader can no longer be sure if what the mag shows as an authr's work was really the author's work then the credibility of the mag is down the drain.
There's much more but time and space limnit me.
Patrick H. Crowe
Greg Pack
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Thank God!
Bubbles Galore
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If I wrote and published my own trade mag, you can bet I would voice MY opinions.
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Patrick H. Crowe
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Dear Bubbles Galore:
Within almost all industries there develop, over the years, what are known as "Industry Standards". For example, in the self-service car wash industry, trigger guns are now the industry standard. Of course you are completely free to simply use a piece of pipe but in my opinion you do so at your own peril.
The trade publishing magazine industry has its own set of stanbdards. I'll limit myself to naming three: 1. An editor/publisher never changes or adds to what an author wrote without first getting the explicit permission of the author to do so. Of course the editor can correct misspellings or solecisms but that's the extent of it. I can personally attest to the fact that the two mag's for which I will no longer write literally changed what I wrote. That's as clear a violation of industry standards as any professional author can imagine. Moreover, professional authors such as myself (I've been a member of Author's Guild for decades) have a set of ethics which keeps them from writing for such unprofessional editors.
2. A trade magazine is free to express editorial views but usually these are limited to topics within the area of the trade. If one of these mag's gave a clearly labeled editorial stating that non-trigger guns are a menace, then that's fine. To stray into politics is questionable for a trade journal. To not make it very clear that the editor feels free to change an author's work is way out of line. Not illegal, just a clear violation of minimum industry standards.
3. The industry standard is to pay anj autghor a kill fee for work that is produced on time and on topic and then arbitrairly rejected by an editor or publisher. When you get to the task of writing your own trade mag I hope you'll follow these minimum industry standards of professionalism. I have personally been denied such a kill fee by SSCWN. Of course you are 100% free to do as you please but it is the task and responsibility of long standing professional writers to call you to task when you fail to meet these basic, minimum standards of professionalism within the publishing industry.
Patrick H. Crowe
Within almost all industries there develop, over the years, what are known as "Industry Standards". For example, in the self-service car wash industry, trigger guns are now the industry standard. Of course you are completely free to simply use a piece of pipe but in my opinion you do so at your own peril.
The trade publishing magazine industry has its own set of stanbdards. I'll limit myself to naming three: 1. An editor/publisher never changes or adds to what an author wrote without first getting the explicit permission of the author to do so. Of course the editor can correct misspellings or solecisms but that's the extent of it. I can personally attest to the fact that the two mag's for which I will no longer write literally changed what I wrote. That's as clear a violation of industry standards as any professional author can imagine. Moreover, professional authors such as myself (I've been a member of Author's Guild for decades) have a set of ethics which keeps them from writing for such unprofessional editors.
2. A trade magazine is free to express editorial views but usually these are limited to topics within the area of the trade. If one of these mag's gave a clearly labeled editorial stating that non-trigger guns are a menace, then that's fine. To stray into politics is questionable for a trade journal. To not make it very clear that the editor feels free to change an author's work is way out of line. Not illegal, just a clear violation of minimum industry standards.
3. The industry standard is to pay anj autghor a kill fee for work that is produced on time and on topic and then arbitrairly rejected by an editor or publisher. When you get to the task of writing your own trade mag I hope you'll follow these minimum industry standards of professionalism. I have personally been denied such a kill fee by SSCWN. Of course you are 100% free to do as you please but it is the task and responsibility of long standing professional writers to call you to task when you fail to meet these basic, minimum standards of professionalism within the publishing industry.
Patrick H. Crowe
