Graphene

[Car Wash Man]

We are introducing graphene to our Kondor this spring. Looking for everyone's opinion on if I should apply it before the Ceramic or after? Ceramic and Graphene will only be included on our top wash. Any other recommendations on what you did when introducing graphene to your wash would be very helpful as well. Thanks!

 

[washnshine]

It might depend on the chemical line you are using as to what is recommended to be first or second.

 

[Car Wash Man]

We run Simoniz at our wash.

 

[washnshine]

Ceramic first then graphene. That is what Jake Collison recommends.

 

[aussiewash]

Do you need both?

 

[soonermajic]

We run Simoniz at our wash.

Huh? Simoniz Graphene?

 

[Timmb]

Carbonite Surface Hardening Agent | 30 Gal. | Simoniz S0555030

Simoniz S0555005 is a 30-gallon drum of Simoniz Carbonite. Graphene-infused premium hardening agent. Protects, shines, resists water, reduces corrosion.

www.kleen-ritecorp.com

 

[OurTown]

Carbonite Surface Hardening Agent | 30 Gal. | Simoniz S0555030

Simoniz S0555005 is a 30-gallon drum of Simoniz Carbonite. Graphene-infused premium hardening agent. Protects, shines, resists water, reduces corrosion.

www.kleen-ritecorp.com

At 2oz per car that's 70 cents each. Sounds pricey compared to my other chemicals.

 

[washnshine]

It’s priced exactly the same as their ceramic sealant at KR. AWESOME product.

 

[washnshine]

Do you need both?

Absolutely not, but if you use both you can charge for both.

 

[soonermajic]

Anybody used Kleen-Rite's Kleen-Pak Hyper Wave Ceramic? Ive tried it.
Pretty dang good , & has a great Cinnamon smell

 

[Car Wash Man]

Anybody used Kleen-Rite's Kleen-Pak Hyper Wave Ceramic? Ive tried it.
Pretty dang good , & has a great Cinnamon smell

I have not, haven't tried any of their hyper products. They always tempted me to give them a try but we are happy with what we are using now, "if it aint broke don't fix it"

 

[ShinePro]

It might depend on the chemical line you are using as to what is recommended to be first or second.

I would agree with that.
I run Graphene first then a spritz of ceramic then SFR.
in all the testing we did that gave us the best results.

 

[Greg Pack]

At 2oz per car that's 70 cents each. Sounds pricey compared to my other chemicals.

I'm getting a $4 upcharge for my top wash, which essentially is the mid Level wash with premium CCP. If the performance is there enough for the customer to notice I'd argue the cost is manageable.

 

[washbaycowboy25]

I run ceramic first and then graphene. I use Simoniz graphene and it is awesome.

 

[Car Wash Man]

Just ordered our first order of graphene, thank you for all the suggestions and will report on how it performs and what order I put in in.

 

[Chemcrazy]

On my WW Razor, I use JBS Ceramic finish tropical scent( nice purple color) followed by NCS Rainx Graphene. Both flex passes. Ceramic just over 1oz and the Graphene just over 1/3 of a oz per car. Have had great results over the past year.

 

[Scott220]

I jump at the chance of adding a product to increase my price but is there any concern bonding the occasional road film on over time using both products?

 

[washnshine]

There are chemical manufacturers who make “TF” versions of super sealants if that is a concern. I’m also guessing that if you don’t have that problem with what you are using, an additional product won’t cause a problem either.