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Hey everyone, im getting tired of paying kleenrites premium for foam brush soap and insidious shipping costs.. does anyone make their own foam brush soap? And what is the cost vs. buying kleenrites stuff? TIA
Foam brush soap is one of the cheapest soaps you can buy. Makes no sense to make it your self nor is that even feasible unless you have a degree in chemistry. With that being said I will not argue that KR shipping prices are outrageous. I ordered 3 vending products recently and shipping was $52 on a $120 order. Thats almost 50%. This is the main reason I pay $200 a year and get free shipping on everything year round from car wash superstore. A single order from KR was 25% of my yearly cost for CWSS. I only order from them when I have to. I would suggest you do the same and start buying foam brush soap from CWSS with a membership or find a local soap distributor.
K-R does free shipping twice a year. Figure out how much you need and order in bulk. The 5 gallon jugs of JBS foam brush soap lasts a long, long time.
I’d recommend JBS foam glo detergent but there are many, many choices.
You could also try to find a JBS distributor or whatever brand soap you’d like to use. I can’t imagine making your own soap would be cheaper
With the KR points system and free shipping on pallets of soap, I haven't paid to ship anything from KR in years.
There was a post on here by MEP a while back where his customer was mixing foam additive with water and then sending that to the hydrominder for a cheap and effective white FB soap.
That CWSS membership pays for itself very quickly if you don't want to mess with the points at KR
There was a guy who used to post on this forum named Bill Consolo from Chief’s Car Wash in Cleveland, Ohio. He used to make his prep brush soap for his tunnel from a bulk ordered flake product - I think it was similar to this:
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Maybe you can contact him or dig up the old thread to see if he named exactly what he was using. It did not require him to make it from scratch, which I would not attempt, but gave him a more economical solution for brush soap that he could mix on site. One thing I would recommend - when you mix any dry ingredient with water, never use hard water. Make sure your water is as close to 0 TDS as possible. The minerals present in the hard/non pure water really counteract the soap ingredients when you are formulating the concentrate.
I found it - Witconate Flake - 50 pound bag. 16 year old post. Amazing my mind remembered this. Wish I could remember what to get at the grocery store!
Given that your chemical expenditures are around 6-7% of your gross, it is an important factor of production. What every operator should be looking for at each stage of the wash cycle is using the best possible solution at the lowest possible cost.
Obviously, having only one supplier places the responsibility for how your customers vehicles come out squarely on their shoulders. It also gives you a continuity and synergy of prodcuts assuming that each product plays well with the others.
However, in my 36 years in the business, I've never found that one company has all the best products...
Every year when Kleen-Rite has there Free shipping I buy everything I think I'll need for the year. I've never had order a individual item. For foam brush and High pressure soap we use JBS Fonic wash, it was buy 3 get one free. So it ended up cost me $58.40 a bucket, I bought 13 buckets for a total cost of $759.20 for the year, I still have some Fonic wash left over from last year.
If you want to blend up your own soap do this. Get a 50lb of Simoniz Correct #BX5135 and mix that in a 55 gallon plastic drum, add about 50 gallons of water, buy a 1 gallon jug of Simoniz F1170004 foam additive KR#GL0235 and then add about 2 cups or so to the mix and stir. It'll be good for high pressure soap, foam brush and presoak.