Has anyone else noticed how poorly the self serves are doing now, while the full serves are cranking out cars? In Florida we are going into our slow season and most ss washes I see are doing good if half the bays are being used. Most operators I talk to are saying the down economy is keeping customers away, but the places averaging $20 per car have them lined up. The full serve washes that were poorly ran are still that way, and barely keeping the doors open. But the good places, nice lobby, clean lot, friendly people with uniforms, etc, are still doing good. Maybe not as good as two years ago, but their business plan is still working. It's like saying people can't afford a six pack, but the bottles of single malt scotch are selling well.