Remodeling old Doyle vacs

[OurTown]

We are remodeling four standard two motor 115 volt 2002 era Doyle round vacs. They will have Cryptopay, LED6 timers, dualers, new hoses, decals, electronic coin acceptors, and quiet motors. Just about everything is figured out and bought (including custom cut/studded face plates) except three items:

1. What do you guys use for hanging the 1 1/2' hose? Hanging it on the right hand side is the only logical place on these vacs.

2. What size 24V transformer do we need? (VA)

3. Mercury relay or motor contactor? I was going to put it and the transformer under the dome.

 

[Earl Weiss]

I use Stainless Steel Foam Brush holders .
I use the mercury relay and have done the retrofit by putting the transformer under the dome. Transformer from KR.

 

[OurTown]

The FB holders may not mount very elegantly due to the vac's round mounting surface. I found this hose hanger that might work if it has a 9" radius and we have some tabs welded to it so we can bolt it on. I'm assuming that it is made to just weld on.

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-55850-hose-hanger-bracket-9900-022.aspx

I'm a little hesitant about the mercury relays because of disposing them when they croak. They are supposed to be rated for 100,000 cycles but you never know. You can send them back to the factory for them to dispose of but they want it in a special hazmat type shipping container. Does anyone use just a standard contactor or how about a solid state relay?

 

[tdlconceptsllc]

The FB holders may not mount very elegantly due to the vac's round mounting surface. I found this hose hanger that might work if it has a 9" radius and we have some tabs welded to it so we can bolt it on. I'm assuming that it is made to just weld on.

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-55850-hose-hanger-bracket-9900-022.aspx

I'm a little hesitant about the mercury relays because of disposing them when they croak. They are supposed to be rated for 100,000 cycles but you never know. You can send them back to the factory for them to dispose of but they want it in a special hazmat type shipping container. Does anyone use just a standard contactor or how about a solid state relay?

I have tried mercury relays like everyone suggested and the ones I got from kleen rite where bad out the box. So I used regular 24v coil 40amp contactor like I use in hvac/refrigeration everyday and they work just fine. You can buy them at your local hvac supply house cheap.

 

[OurTown]

Our self serve meter boxes have heaters in them. Will we need heaters in our vac meter boxes?

 

[MEP001]

My guess would be no - the bays are going to get warm water sprayed on them, the vacs will only get rainfall or snow/sleet which won't melt and refreeze in the coin path. It certainly wouldn't hurt to put a small one alongside the coin acceptor. I've seen some about as long and thin as a carpenter's pencil on GinSan doors.

 

[OurTown]

Okay. We could always add them later but might have to up size the transformer also.

 

[OurTown]

I happened upon this today while looking for an air chuck:

https://www.diamondu.com/product/rounded-stainless-steel-hanger-bracket-for-vac-hose/

In talking to them today they placed it on an 18" and a 19" diameter vac and it fit good. It's a tad pricey but it's what we are looking for.

 

[2Biz]

Our self serve meter boxes have heaters in them. Will we need heaters in our vac meter boxes?

I'm in Southern Ohio where temps have hit a frigid -15° the past three winters...I don't have heaters in my vac coin boxes...Nobody in their right mind vacs when its that cold! A positive note, when the sun comes out, any snow or ice melts away pretty fast. Never had an issue with frozen coin paths that I know of...

A few years ago, the weather-man was predicting several inches of freezing rain. I took contractor garbage bags and covered the vacs till it was over. Pretty easy way of protecting the vacs during an ice storm. Normal snow and freezing rain hasn't been an issue.

 

[OurTown]

I'm in Southern Ohio where temps have hit a frigid -15° the past three winters

Yeah I know all about that as we are a little North of you. Initially I didn't understand why they are in our SS bay boxes.