Need help

[bubbysbubblescarwash@gmai]

Hello, thank you for the add to this page, I bought my first car wash and am very new to all of this.

I am adding new manifolds to my three-bay wash (4 ports), attached is a photo of one bay. I need help with understanding the wiring in the two new soaps, which all four will be high pressures. I am sure these seems small to most, but any help would be appreciated.

 

[MEP001]

Why would you want more than one high pressure soap?

You have a lot of extra wires coming from the bay. Just use one of those, extend the wire to reach one wire plug on the transformer, and bring the "common" to the other side.

 

[bubbysbubblescarwash@gmai]

Why would you want more than one high pressure soap?

You have a lot of extra wires coming from the bay. Just use one of those, extend the wire to reach one wire plug on the transformer, and bring the "common" to the other side.

I have three cat 310 pumps only so I can only do high pressure, I think? The soap person at Kleen rite said the two I got can be ran high pressure.

when I got the was it was soap, wax, and rise only.

 

[MEP001]

You need to add separate systems. Tire cleaner, presoak, foam brush, spot free. There's no point in having more than one high pressure soap. Just use a good one. Since you're basically starting from scratch, you might consider putting tire cleaner and presoak on a separate gun. Foam brush will earn you money with almost no operating cost.

 

[bubbysbubblescarwash@gmai]

So the 3 four port manifolds Kleen rite told me I needed was a waste of money ?

 

[MEP001]

Never listen to Kleen-Rite about what you should do to your car wash.

You'll want to eliminate those zero-pressure regulators. They work well when they're working, but they're expensive and fail frequently, and you can't get soap or wax to the pump when they fail. You want a tank about 15 gallons for the water supply to your pumps.

 

[bubbysbubblescarwash@gmai]

Its not the best photo, but what my overall pump room looks like. I have two 55 gallon barrels for the soap and one 30 gallon for the wax, which soap is powered and pre mixed and filled. Wax is liquid and premixed and filled. The two barrels with 5 gallon jugs are the two new soaps I was talking about was going to pre mix them and run them through the manifolds.

I guess the big problem is I don't have a system with hydrometers?

 

[MEP001]

You need something like this to add a low pressure system. I don't like these because of the block style solenoids and the tank is open, but it's cheap and simple. For foam brush, you need a second boom in the bay, this system, and tubing.

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-70827-air-logic-lpb5-5-bay-low-pressure-panel.aspx

 

[bubbysbubblescarwash@gmai]

Ok, So I looked at those, how do you tie that into the main line going out to the bay min the foam brush.

 

[MEP001]

I don't understand what you mean. You mount the system, plumb water and air to it, run a pair of tubing lines to each bay and attach those to a separate boom. Run a wire from the rotary switch from each bay to the solenoids.

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-2387-1742-69-stainless-steel-wall-mount-foamy-brush-boom-6ft.aspx

 

[bubbysbubblescarwash@gmai]

Sorry, I thought the pre soak, tire cleaner, ran though the main line and gun.

 

[MEP001]

Presoak and tire cleaner can be run through the high pressure boom. For best results, it needs to tee in at the boom, so it will hook up the same way as the foam brush. Same with spot free rinse. You don't want to have to fill the high pressure line with a low pressure function. I went by a wash the other day that I used to look after which has the lines running underground about 100 feet from the room to the bays. It used to be okay as far as changeover time, but some idiot trying to make his work easier ran the tire cleaner and presoak through the high pressure line. I tried it and waited THREE MINUTES before I gave up and switched to high pressure soap, and it still took about 30 seconds before the tire cleaner reached the gun.

 

[bubbysbubblescarwash@gmai]

Ok, this has been great.

since I have the brand new four port manifolds for the high pressure, other than wax and soap what two other things could I add to my wash. My car wash is a truck and car wash, I have super tall ceilings.

 

[bubbysbubblescarwash@gmai]

Do you happen to have a photo of how the pre soak and tire cleaner would tie in at the boom by chance

 

[MEP001]

The presoak, tire cleaner, and air come together at the cross on the left. The spot free is on the right. Those and the high pressure connect to another cross and go straight into the boom.

 

[bubbysbubblescarwash@gmai]

Thank you for the photo,