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2nd Site Strategy- Tokens to US Coins

Big Chris

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Three weeks ago, I bought the nicer of two car washes that were owned by the same person in my local town. This is my 2nd site, it currently uses $1 tokens and credit cards. Current revenue is 60/40 in favor of cc.

The other car wash is still for sale. It is literally right next door to a brand new tunnel that was finished last spring. The tunnel & other wash is about 2.5 miles away from my site. I feel the other wash is a lost cause for several reasons (too many to list), and the property is better suited for something else..... e.g. a Starbucks or something like that. But until it sells, I am competing against the previous owner. This person lives 2000 miles away in Florida, is in their late 60s and is no longer interested being an owner/operator. The other car wash is being kept afloat by two younger employees in their early 20s (vo-tech kids).

Since they were both owned by the same person and in the same town, they both use the same tokens. So it is possible that someone buys tokens at the other location and uses them at my wash (and vice-versa). I was aware of this at the time of sale, and considered this in our negotiations. Now that I have ownership, (and I feel the other wash is a lost cause) I want to move away from tokens all together. I'll continue to honor the tokens for the foreseeable future (maybe a year or so..) for goodwill to the community. It's a small semi rural town in NEPA.

Quite frankly I was expecting the other wash to have sold by now. But in the mean time I want to be able to accept tokens and quarters. I can easily handle this change with minimal effort/expense.

This strategy comes to me as in my short time of ownership I've had many customers ask me to exchange quarters for tokens, complain about tokens, etc. I feel this is a way to easily and quickly differentiate myself from the other wash. (besides making obvious improvements)

I have two Rowe change machines at this wash. My plan is to convert one to quarters and leave one tokens.

Both of these sites had not seen any significant upgrades for maybe a decade, and I've got a long list of improvements to roll out. There are lot's of low hanging fruit.
Long term is to replace the meter boxes in the bays with new ones, and accept cash/credit cards in each bay. But this is a longer term improvement, probably at least 18 months out. So in the mean time, what would you do?
 
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I went through this when I bought my first wash. One guy owned three washes and I bought one of them from him that was just under a mile away from his second one about 20 years ago.
My solution:
All of the accepters were Slugbusters and only took quarters and his .50 cent 85/15 tokens.
I decided to replace the Slugbusters with IDX MA 800s
(I would use MicroCoin now) and that allowed me to take the dollar coin, quarters, the old token, and a new $1 CTX control token from VanBrook.
The money made from walkoff tokens easily paid for the accepters within the first year.
I took the old tokens as you are for one year and had a sign announcing the end date at the bill changer. No complaints.
After all that, I ended up getting his other two washes.😄
I would seriously consider asking the owner to run his wash that the kids are running just to get your foot in the door. See what it can do.
I've run many washes for zero rent in exchange for keeping all revenue or a majority of the revenue and then converting that into a sale. Sure, there's been a few duds that I walked away from but overall its been worth it because you get to see what it can do for minimal financial risk.
*Edit: If you do change your tokens, make sure you change to a different color, diameter, reeded edge, smooth edge. SOMETHING to easily differentiate between the new and old tokens.
 
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I would do what edredtop did, I wouldn't continue to dispense the same tokens as the other wash, I would either get a different token or stop dispensing tokens all together.

On another note, never really understood walkaway tokens as a profit center. With the cost of security tokens nowadays, it's cheaper for us, COGS wise, if the customer uses our ss bays or vacs than it is to lose that token.
 
I would do what edredtop did, I wouldn't continue to dispense the same tokens as the other wash, I would either get a different token or stop dispensing tokens all together.

On another note, never really understood walkaway tokens as a profit center. With the cost of security tokens nowadays, it's cheaper for us, COGS wise, if the customer uses our ss bays or vacs than it is to lose that token.
When I did it, CTX tokens were something like 31 cents for a one dollar token. I now toy with the idea of a $5 token but need an accumulating bill accepter.
 
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When I did it, CTX tokens were something like 31 cents for a one dollar token. I now toy with the idea of a $5 token but need an accumulating bill acceptor.
That's still in the ballpark of COGS in ss, no contest in vacs. I think it was a grand concept of "free money" created by token salesmen, that doesn't really translate for car washes.

Selling $5 tokens would be great if customers would get on board to spending in $5 increments
 
When I did it, CTX tokens were something like 31 cents for a one dollar token. I now toy with the idea of a $5 token but need an accumulating bill acceptor.
A customer of mine used a $5 token. He had me turn off the $1 bill acceptance and dispensed 1 token for $5, 2 for a $10 and 3 for $20. I thought he was crazy for giving out 3 tokens for a $20 but it worked for him. In has bays to took quarters, Tokens, credit cards, no bill validators. Credit cards were probably 65% of his bays sales.
 
A customer of mine used a $5 token. He had me turn off the $1 bill acceptance and dispensed 1 token for $5, 2 for a $10 and 3 for $20. I thought he was crazy for giving out 3 tokens for a $20 but it worked for him. In has bays to took quarters, Tokens, credit cards, no bill validators. Credit cards were probably 65% of his bays sales.
5 for $20 but I get it, love it!
 
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