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NuWall is great but be CAREFUL. In the end we replace the FRP about every 7-10 years or so. Works for us.

The 6' fence does cut the wind a lot. We do not use doors on the automatics in Michigan, so it helps.

We closed the fitness center for four months, opened it in late August. Been a tough year!

Mike-yes, we are still a "pay one price, wash all you want" 6+2 gated carwash. Still doing well. The fence along the rear has been there for 35 years. The property is not accessible from the rear but the fence offers a secure feeling for customers.

We pay a third party once a year, maybe more if needed. They suck it out and provide documentation on disposal. Works for us!

For a two bay wash, please consider closing it down in the extreme weather. Most other solutions will cost you a bundle in the end and not recover costs, IMO. If you use floor heat, watch out! If can eat you alive in low volume situations.

My suggestion: You need to end the gatherings. Consider making a plan and sticking to it. I would probably hire a security firm to prevent no customer congregation on the location, providing an advanced notice with explanation. You see, the customers who might use the wash will drive by and see...

Eventually, consider replacing the material with new FRP. It really brightens up the bays and in the North prevents ice buildup over brick, We covered our through the wall brick decades ago and have replaced the FRP once.

We put up a wood 6' solid fence across the back and side of the property to eliminate the chance of someone hiding behind the was, Much more secure with the fence and better for women customers. The can see anyone coming or going much more easily.

We have always used a Stihl gas blower but caution; DO NOT let staff use blower in the area of active customers around the vacuum islands, Letting a new hire or kid use the blower without training will cause a lot of grief! Good luck.

Runs itself?....Run away!!

We leave clean terry towels out for our customers at our WAUW gated 6+2, We buy them new and dye them dark. Our customers love them and we lose some but not too many.

Our gated WAYW is priced at $9, includes everything at the 6 + 2 including unlimited use of automatics, vacs, carpet cleaning, air fresheners, terry towels and free air. The utilities and supplies run in the average range for 6 + 2 washes. Six years and counting.

Tokens should provide security and convenience for customers, not a built in profit for the operator. Keep thinking about payment systems that do not use coins. Most people today do not want to deal with coins or bills for payment, IMO.

Bought an 8 camera Lorex kit from their website. Great product, great value.

Our wash is gated. You pay $8 and all services are included - no extra charge. We attend about 40 hrs week, more when busy. We have no competition in this segment (WAUW). Check our website - adrianimagecenter.com

Jerry - I am in the indoor tanning business and have been in the "unlimited tanning" segment for 18 years now, fitness club with memberships for five years now. Our programs start at unlimited for $9.99 up to 39.99/mo. With most all membership programs, the unique nature of the low perceived...

We operate a WAUW 6+2 in a small Midwest city, charging $8 for any and/or all services (autos, bays, vacs, air freshener, terry towels). We looked at the unlimited concept and decided against it. We do a significant volume in a small percentage of days so we will stay with the "pay as you go"...

We do not seem to have the kind of trouble mentioned here. If I suffered that much, I'd get out. 30+ years in the SS business and still fells good.

Seller financing can be a strong motivator for many purchasers. If you do please consider setting up an escrow account at a local bank that both of you can access on-line, and collect monthly statements. All utilities, property taxes, building insurance and payment to seller are deducted from...